Genealogy software comparisons

Comparing source citations – Census records, database/images online

At this stage, I have only compared two programs, RootsMagic and Legacy.

Using the example from the Evidence Explained quick-check samples for Derivatives: Database, Online (which was used for the Federal Census of 1871 Canada (Ontario index)), this is what I came up with for the 1841 England Census at ancestry.com.au:

Source List Entry 

The National Archives of the UK (TNA) Public Record Office (PRO), 1841 England Census, Database, Ancesry Information Operations Company,  ancestry, http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=8978, ,2010

First (full) reference note

The National Archives of the UK (TNA) Public Record Office (PRO), 1841 England Census, Database Ancesry Information Operations Company,  ancestry, http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=8978, ,accessed 27 March 2015, entry for William Mimspey (Whimpey) (age 45), Frome Selwood, Somerset, citing Class: HO107; Piece: 942; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Frome Selwood; County: Somerset; Enumeration District:18; Folio: 41; Page: 2; Line: 22; GSU roll: 474597

Subsequent (short) note

The National Archives of the UK (TNA) Public Record Office (PRO), 1841 England Census, database entry for William Mimspey (Whimpey) (age 45), Frome Selwood, Somerset,

 RootsMagic

Using the Census, England, Wales (online database) source template in RootsMagic, I came up with a problem when trying to enter the data.  The credit line should be a source detail item, since it only relates to a specific entry on the census.  If I were to use this source template, I would have to set up a separate entry for every person on the 1841 England Census

I decided to ignore that problem for the moment, and look at how RootsMagic displayed the information.

Bibliography (source list entry)

The National Archives of the UK (TNA) Public Record Office (PRO),. “1841 England Census.” Database,  Ancesry Information Operations Company. ancestry. http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=8978 : 2015.

This part matches the quick check model.

Footnote (first (full) reference note)

The National Archives of the UK (TNA) Public Record Office (PRO),, “1841 England Census,”, database, Ancesry Information Operations Company, ancestry (http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=8978 : accessed 27 March 2015), William Mimspey (age “Whimpey” 45); Class: HO107; Piece: 942; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Frome Selwood; County: Somerset; Enumeration District:18; Folio: 41; Page: 2; Line: 22; GSU roll: 474597.

For some reason, my entry William Mimspey (Whimpey) (age 45), has been changed to William Mimspey (age “Whimpey” 45).  Other than that it matches the quick check model.

Short fortnote (subsequent (short) note)

The National Archives of the UK (TNA) Public Record Office (PRO),, “1841 England Census,” database William Mimspey (age “Whimpey” 45).

This isn’t bad, but again, it’s changed the order of my items in brackets, and it’s left off the place (Frome Selwood, Somerset).

Legacy

In the Legacy source writer, I selected Census, England, 1841, online database, and this is what I end up with.

Bibliography

The National Archives of the UK (TNA) Public Record Office (PRO). “1841 England Census.” Database. Ancesry Information Operations Company. ancestry. http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=8978 : 2010.

This is spot on.

Footnote/endnote citation

The National Archives of the UK (TNA) Public Record Office (PRO), “1841 England Census,” database, Ancesry Information Operations Company, ancestry (http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=8978 : accessed 27 Mar 2015), entry for William Mimspey (Whimpey), (age 45), Frome Selwood, Somerset; Class: HO107; Piece: 942; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Frome Selwood; County: Somerset; Enumeration District: 18; Folio: 41; Page: 2; Line: 22; GSU roll: 474597.

Again, this is spot on

Subsequent citation

The National Archives of the UK (TNA) Public Record Office (PRO), “1841 England Census,” entry for William Mimspey (Whimpey), (age 45).

The subsequent citation doesn’t show the format type or the location.

Since the 1841 England Census at ancestry also has images, I needed to check for a model for this.  I found this model as https://www.evidenceexplained.com/content/england-census-citation-confusion

Based on this model, my citation should be

1841 census of England, Somerset, Frome Selwood, Frome, folio 41 page 2 line 22 William Whimpey (age 45); PRO HO 107/942/11, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey, UK; digital image, Ancestry.com(http://www.ancestry.com/ : accessed 27 Mar 2015), citing “GSU roll: 474597.”

This is what Legacy came up with

1841 census of England, Somerset, Frome Selwood, Frome, folio 41, page 2 line 22, William Whimpey (age 45); digital images, Ancestry.com, ancestry (www.ancestry.com : accessed 27 Mar 2015); citing PRO HO 107/942/11.

Unfortunately, the Legacy template does not produce the elements the way that EE has suggested.  (The PRO HO 107/942/11, National Archives, Kew, Surrey, UK is missing from the middle, and instead of citing the GSU roll, it cites the PRO reference there instead.  This would mean that I would need to adjust where I enter items, in order for these details to show where they’re supposed to.

There is a template in RootsMagic for census, online images, UK & wales.  This is what it comes up with

1841 Census of England, Somerset, Frome Selwood, folio 41 page 2 line 22, William Whimpey (age 45); digital images, Ancestry.com, ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com/ : accessed 27 March 2015); citing “GSU roll: 474597.”.

Although the model isn’t bad, it skips the PRO HO 107/942/11 The National Archives, Kew, Surrey, UK. (Also, the jurisdiction and civil division fields are part of the master source, so I would have to set up a new source for each civil division).  For this, I would need to copy the template and adjust the copy to fix these issues.

It seems with both programs, some adjustment to the templates are needed to match the EE model, so the next thing to check is: once I’ve made the adjustment to the templates, what do the citations look like in my online family tree?  That’s what I’ll look at next week.

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