52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks

52 Ancestors #30 John Price

Amy Johnson Crow introduced the 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks challenge on her No Story Too Small blog in 2014. This year she continued the challenge, but also added a weekly theme. This week’s theme is: Challenging: It’s a good time to take a look at another challenging-to-research ancestor.

For this week, I have chosen my 3x great grandfather John Price.

From a birthday book held in the family, we have a date of birth for his daughter Margaret.  Margaret was born on 14 February 1815.  Her son Isaac’s birth certificate shows she was 39 years old in 1855, indicating a birth year of 1816.  The birth certificate also listed her birthplace as Merthyr Kinnock, Brecknockshire.  This is also known as Merthyr Cynog, Breconshire.

Margaret’s marriage certificate lists her father as John Price, farmer.

Although there is a collection at FamilySearch (with a link to FindMyPast) Wales, Brecknockshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912, unfortunately there is no entry for a Margaret Price at Merthyr Cynog, and these baptism entries also don’t provide parents’ names, so there’s no way to determine which entry is for my Margaret.  Also, without parents’ names on the baptism records, this doesn’t help me in finding more information about John, or who his wife was.

Usually, death certificates in Australia can provide the names of parents, however, Margaret’s death certificate listed her father as William, and her mother’s name was unknown.  This means I even have conflicting information on the name of her father. Since the information on the marriage certificate is more likely to have been provided by someone with firsthand knowledge of who her father was, it is more likely that her father’s name was John.

The marriage certificate shows one of the witnesses was William Price.  On the 1841 Wales census, a William Price was also listed with Joseph and Margaret.


Margaret & Joseph Whimpey 1841 census
1841 census of Wales, Bedwelty, Monmouthshire, folio 16, page 24, Margaret Price; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations Inc., Ancestry.com.au (http://home.ancestry.com.au/ : accessed 13 Aug 2005); citing PRO HO 107/750/15.

Was William Margaret’s brother?

Unfortunately, given how common the given name William is as well as the surname Price, searching later census entries doesn’t seem likely to help in identifying whether William is Margaret’s brother, or who their parents might have been.  I don’t even know if he remained in Wales, or also migrated to Australia.  I do know that there was no William Price on the same ship they sailed on.

Perhaps the solution lies with the other witness, Sarah Herbert.  Unfortunately, I don’t know what her relationship is to Joseph and Margaret.  I don’t know if Herbert was her married name, or her maiden name.  I don’t know how old she would have been.

So, the fact that Price is a very common surname, and the information I seek is prior to census records and civil registration, this makes finding more information about John Price, and his wife, very challenging.