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Latest research – John Oldroyd born 1783

In preparation for next week’s Surname Saturday post, where I planned to feature the surname Whitworth, I decided to see if I could find more details about the person in my tree with this surname, Mary Whitworth.  Mary Whitworth was married to John Oldroyd.

I found a burial entry for a Mary Oldroyd in 1851 at the West Parade Wesleyan Chapel in Wakefield.  This was the same parish that Mary Whitworth’s daughter in law Elizabeth Oldroyd, nee Sidebottom, was buried.  The age (92) of this Mary was consistent with Mary Whitworth’s marriage to John Oldroyd in 1781.

Since this Mary died in February 1851, she wouldn’t be on the 1851 census, but I did find a Mary Oldroyd, age 82, in the household of John Oldroyd, age 55, at Alverthorpe on the 1841 census.  The household members were:

  • John Oldroyd age 55
  • Mary Oldroyd age 82
  • Thomas Oldroyd age 20
  • Edward Oldroyd age 15
  • William Oldroyd age 15
  • Joseph Oldroyd age 12
  • Benjaman Oldroyd age 12

I wanted to find out more information about John, to determine if this was my family.  One of the suggested records was for the 1851 census, which showed John Oldroyd, age 68, (born about 1783), birthplace Alverthorpe, Yorkshire, England. Also in the household were sons Joseph, age 22, and Benjamin age 22.  I had already found that John Oldroyd and Mary Whitworth’s eldest son was John Oldroyd, christened 22 March 1783 at All Saints, Wakefield

The next thing was to find baptism records for all the children listed on the 1841 census. I started with the least common given name, Benjamin.

I found a baptism record for Benjamin Oldroyd in 1828 at St Michael, East Ardsley.

Benjamin Oldroyd
Ancestry.com, “West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910,” database and images, Ancestry.com (http://home.ancestry.com.au/ : accessed 19 Nov 2016); baptism entry for Benjamin Oldroyd, 17 Aug 1828; West Yorkshire Archive Service; Wakefield, Yorkshire, England; Yorkshire Parish Records; Old Reference Number: D16/1/3; New Reference Number: WDP16/1/3.

The baptism entry shows Benjamin was a twin, which is consistent with the census records.  Since his twin, Joseph, wasn’t on this page, I checked the previous page, and Joseph’s baptism was the last entry on that page.  John Oldroyd and Mary Whitworth’s son Mark Oldroyd had also baptised his eldest children in St Michael’s East Ardsley. It therefore appeared that the burial in 1851 was for Mary Whitworth, and that she had been with her son John on the 1841 census.

Now that I had their mother’s name, I searched Ancestry for anyone with the last name Oldroyd, born 1818 +-10 years, location East Ardsley, Yorkshire, England, father John, mother Nancy.

In summary, the entries I found were:

  • Elizabeth born 20 April 1810, baptism 10 June 1810
  • John born 30 June 1812, baptism 26 July 1812
  • James baptism 18 Apr 1819
  • William baptism 26 Oct 1823
  • Benjamin baptism 17 Aug 1828
  • Joseph baptism 17 Aug 1828

I was still missing baptism entries for Thomas (age 20 on 1841) and Edward (age 15 on 1841 census)

I therefore tried searching for Edward Oldroyd, born 1826 in East Ardsley, father John, and found a baptism for an Edward, son of John and Ann, in 1821 at East Ardsley.

Edward Oldroyd baptism
Ancestry.com, “West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910,” database and images,
West Yorkshire Archive Service; Wakefield, Yorkshire, England; Yorkshire Parish Records; Old Reference Number: D16/1/3; New Reference Number: WDP16/1/3.

This baptism record was consistent with the family – father John was a miner, and the abode was Outwood

Since the mother was listed as Ann on this baptism record, I decided to revise my search for baptisms for the surname Oldroyd in East Ardsley for 1818 +-10 years, this time with just the father’s name John.  In this way, I found the baptism for Thos Oldroyd in 1817 at East Ardsley

Thos Oldroyd baptism
Ancestry.com, “West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910,” database and images, Ancestry.com (http://home.ancestry.com.au/ : accessed 19 Nov 2016); baptism entry for Thos Oldroyd, 6 April 1817; West Yorkshire Archive Service; Wakefield, Yorkshire, England; Yorkshire Parish Records; Old Reference Number: D16/1/3; New Reference Number: WDP16/1/3.

The next thing to do was to try and find the marriage of John Oldroyd and Nancy (or Ann).  I entered John Oldroyd born 1783 at Wakefield, Yorkshire, England, wife Nancy.

There was a marriage of a John Oldroyd to Nancy Ryley in 1804 at Dewsbury.  Was this marriage in 1804 in Dewsbury to Nancy Ryley for my John?  Although the marriage record showed that John was a miner, it also stated that John was “of this parish” – i.e. of Dewsbury.  John was christened at Wakefield, and his children were christened at East Ardsley.  Although Dewsbury isn’t far away from either place, I needed to do more research to try and determine whether this marriage was for my John.

There was a public member tree at Ancestry that listed the parents of the John Oldroyd who married Nancy Ryley as Jacob Oldroyd and Mary Nowell.  The next thing to do was to review the information in this tree, to see how reliable it was likely to be, and found that a lot of the information on John came from the census records I had found.  This tree showed that John was born in either 1783 or 1786, and that the source of this information was the 1841 and 1851 census – no baptism record had been attached in this tree.

The next thing to do was to see if Jacob and Mary were likely to have been the parents of the John who married Nancy Ryley.  Jacob Oldroyd married Mary Nowell on 30 October 1786 at Dewsbury.  The 1851 Census had shown that John Oldroyd was born in 1783 at Alverthorpe. I also found that Jacob and Mary did have a son John, but his baptism was in 1790.  He would have been only 14 years old when John Oldroyd married Nancy Ryley. It therefore seemed unlikely that the John who married Nancy Ryley was the son of Jacob Oldroyd and Mary Nowell.

I still needed to verify that the marriage of John Oldroyd and Nancy Ryley was for my John.  I was unable to find another marriage of a John Oldroyd to an Ann, Nancy or Hannah that seemed to match, so the next thing to do was to trace the baptisms of the children of John and Nancy.

The earliest baptism I had already found for my John and Nancy/Ann was in 1810.  Were there any earlier baptisms in East Ardsley?  To determine this, I broadened my search to cover variations of the surname Oldroyd, but focused my search to records from East Ardsley, with the father John.

another-focus-search

 

The results were:

  • Mary Oldred, baptism 26 Jan 1806, father John
  • Sarah Oldroyd, baptism 28 Feb 1808, father John
  • Elizth Oldroyd, baptism 10 Jun 1810, parents John & Nancy
  • John Oldroyd, baptism 30 Jun 1812, parents Jno & Nancy
  • Alice Olroyd, baptism 18 Sep 1814, parents John & Ann
  • Thos Oldroyd baptism 6 Apr 1817, parents John & Ann
  • James Oldroyd baptism 18 Apr 1819, parents John & Nancy
  • Edward Oldroyd baptism 22 July 1821, parents John & Ann
  • Wm Oldroyd, baptism 26 Oct 1823, parents John & Nancy
  • Matthew Oldroyd, baptism 14 May 1826, parents John & Ann
  • Benjamin Oldroyd, baptism 17 Aug 1828, parents John & Nancy
  • Joseph Oldroyd, baptism 17 Aug 1828, parents John & Nancy

The birth of the first child was consistent with the marriage in 1804, and the occupation for John was listed as miner on the baptism records, and his marriage record.  Dewsbury is reasonably close to East Ardsley, so the marriage of John to Nancy seemed probable.

I decided to do more research, and chose daughter Alice, born in 1814 at East Ardsley.  The first result was a Public Member tree which showed Alice Riley Oldroyd, born about 1815 in Kirkhamgate, Yorkshire, married Charles Sands.  I then found the following marriage entries:

Alice Riley Oldroyd
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:  Alice Riley Oldroyd
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 7 Feb 1837
Marriage Place: Birstall,York,England
Spouse: Charles Sands
FHL Film Number:       0990527-0990529

Alice Milly Olroyd
in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name:  Alice Milly Olroyd
Marriage or Bann Date: 7 Feb 1837
Parish:  Birstall, St Peter, Yorkshire, England
Spouse: Charles Sands

The 1851 census shows Alice Sands, age 36, was born at Kirkhamgate, Yorkshire.  Her eldest daughter was named Nancy.

This was further indication that the John Oldroyd who married Nancy Ryley was the son of John Oldroyd and Mary Whitworth.

The following map shows the parishes where records for the family have been found

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