Sunday afternoon Genealogy Fun

Sunday Afternoon Genealogy Fun -Where Were They 150 Years Ago

Each week on Randy Seaver’s Genea-musings blog he has a post for Saturday night Genealogy fun.  Because of the time difference, I have called my series Sunday Afternoon Genealogy Fun. This week the mission was:

1)  Determine where your ancestral families were on 12 January 1869 – 150 years ago.

2)  List them, their family members, their birth years, and their residence location (as close as possible).  Do you have a photograph of their residence, and does the residence still exist?  How many do you have in each generation living in January 1869?


3)  Tell us all about it in your own blog post, in a comment to this post, or in a Facebook Status  post

I have divided my ancestors into two sections, the ancestors living in Australia, and the ones living in England.

My ancestors living in Victoria

My great grandfather, Joseph Whimpey (1848-1919) was listed in the 1871 inquest into the death of Richard Bramley as a farmer of Loddon Plains.  His marriage certificate (he married Sarah Jane Sharp on 27 March 1872) shows he was a farmer at Newbridge.  I don’t know if he was still living with his parents in 1869, or whether he had his own farm, so I don’t know the location of his home.

My 2x great grandfather Joseph Whimpey (1819-1902) was listed in the 1869 Bailliere’s Post Office Directory as a farmer at Newbridge, so that is where he and his wife, my 2x great grandmother Margaret Price (1816-1901) would have been living. Their daughter Eliza and son Isaac were probably also living with them. I don’t know the location of their home.

My great grandmother, Sarah Jane Sharp (1853-1906) was listed on her marriage certificate in 1872 as residing with her parents at Woodstock, so that would probably be where the family were in 1869.  Her parents were my 2x great grandparents, Henry Sharp (1826-1892) and Jane Elizabeth Oldroyd (1828-1902).  I don’t know the location of their home.

My great grandfather, Alexander Alexander Harley (1866-1939) would have been living with his parents, my 2x great grandparents, Robert Harley (1817-1892) and Euphemia Dandie (1824-1902). Alexander was the youngest child, so I’m not sure how many of their children would still have been living with them.  Robert was a farmer at Hesket. I don’t know the location of their home.

My great grandmother, Henrietta Louisa Russell (1865-1949) would have been living with her parents Thomas Henry Russell (1844-1892) and Maria Louisa Doyle (1847-1925), as well as their other 2 children.  Their son Garrett John Russell was born in 1869 at Happy Valley, so that would have been where they were living in 1869. I don’t know the location of their home.

My 3x great grandparents, Garrett John Russell (1817-1877) and Susan Greene (1819-1884) were living at the vicarage of the Holy Trinity Church in Buninyong.  I’m not sure how many of their children would still have been living with them.  I know the location of their home, as the Russell family reunion was held there in September 2001. I didn’t take a photo at the time, but I was later sent a photo of their home.

My 3x great grandparents, Thomas Doyle (1814-1886) and Catherine Mills (1818-1899) were probably living at Buninyong, as that was where their daughter Maria had been living when she married in 1865. I’m not sure how many of their children would still have been living with them. I don’t know the location of their home.

My great grandfather, Henry Palmer Marr (1859-1944) would have been living with his parents, my 2x great grandparents, James Marr (1827-1899) and Martha Richardson (1827-1882), and the rest of their children.  Their youngest son, Thomas Miller Marr, was born in 1869 at Majorca, so that is where the family were living in 1869.  I don’t know the location of their home.

My great grandmother, Mary Reeves (1864-1951) was born at Cockatoo Gully, Amherst, so she was probably still  living there with her parents, my 2x great grandparents, William John Reeves (1828-1888) and Mary Gill (1829-1903) in 1869, as well as the rest of their children. As Mary’s mother, my 3x great grandfmother, Mary Scott (1792-1872), died in 1872 at Cockatoo Gully, she was probably also living with them in 1869. I don’t know the location of their home.

My great grandfather, Harry Docwra (1866-1934) would have been living with his parents, my 2x great grandparents, Alfred Docwra (1824-1903) and Mary Scott (1830-1885).  The 1871 Moorabbin Rate book shows his father, Alfred, was a storekeeper who owned a 3 room house in Point Nepean Road, Brighton East.  The rate book shows there were 9 people living in the house, which would probably have been Alfred and Mary and 7 of their children. He also owned 2 acres of land in Cavanah Road. The 1865 rate book showed he owned a house and land in Cavanah Road Cheltenham.  Since I haven’t found a rate book for 1869, I don’t know whether they would have been living in Cavanah Road or Point Nepean Road in 1869.  Alfred was still living in Point Nepean Road in 1900, and the 1900 directory shows that his home was between Centre Dandenong Road and Chesterville Road Cheltenham, so I think I know approximately where their home was.  I don’t have a photo of it.

My 2x great grandparents, George Oliver (1846-1930) and Elizabeth Ann Ball (1856-1909) were married in 1875 in Bairnsdale.  At that time they were both living in Bairnsdale, so that was probably where they were living in 1869.  Elizabeth was probably living with her parents, my 3x great grandparents, William Edward Ball (1825-1893) and Ann Slawson (1836-1878).  Since Elizabeth was their eldest child, the rest of the family were probably also living with them.  I don’t know the location of their homes.

My 3x great grandmother, Susannah Campkin (1827-1880) was living in Richmond, with her second husband, William Stephens, and her children by her second marriage. I’m not sure if any of her children by her first marriage were still living with her.  I don’t know the location of their home.

My ancestors living in England

My 3x great grandfather, William Whimpey (1789-1870) died in 1870 at the Asylum in Frome, Somerset, England, so that was probably where he was living in 1869.  I’m not sure where the Asylum was located, and I don’t have a photo of it.

My 3x great grandmother, Elizabeth Sidebottom (1796-1878) was living with her daughter and son in law, John and Elizabeth Wright, and their family, at Outwood Cottages, Stanley cum Wrenthorpe, Yorkshire, England in 1871, so that was probably where she was in 1869. I’m not sure where their home was, and I don’t have a photo of it.

My 3x great grandfather, William Reeves (1800-1877) was living with his daughter and son in law, John and Selina Salmon, and their family, in East Stonehouse, Devon, England on the 1871 census, so that was probably where he was living in 1869.  His wife, my 3x great grandmother, Maria Crook (1804-1870) may have also been living with them, as she died in 1870 in East Stonehouse. I’m not sure where their home was, and I don’t have a photo of it.

My 4x great grandparents, Silvester Oliver (1805-1879) and Mary Ann Burgess (1806-1872) were living at 83 Dolphin Lane, Melbourne, Cambridgeshire on the 1871 census, so that was probably where they were living in 1869.  I don’t have a photo of their home.

My 4x great grandfather, Stephen Campkin (1795-1869) died in 1869 in Thetford, Norfolk, England.  He had been living with his son in law and daughter Benjamin and Emma Farrow and their family at Earles Lane, Thetford St Cuthbert on the 1861 census, so that was probably where he was living when he died.  I’m not sure exactly where their home was, and I don’t have a photo of it.

My 4x great grandfather, George Slawson (1810-1889) was living at Isham, Northamptonshire, England on the 1871 census, so that may have been living in 1869, but he may also have been living at 91 Syke Row, Brigstock, as he was there on the 1861 census. I don’t know the location of his home

So I have these generations living in January 1869:

7 great grandparents, all living in Victoria

16 2x great grandparents, all living in Victoria

12 3 x great grandparents, 8 living in Victoria and 4 living in England (1 in Somerset, 1 in Yorkshire and 2 in Devonshire)

4 4x great grandparents, all living in England (2 in Cambridgeshire, 1 in Norfolk, and 1 in Northamptonshire)

So, I had 39 ancestors living in January 1869

I did a post about where my ancestors were living 150 years ago, back in 2016 – https://loiswillis.blog/2016/06/26/sunday-afternoon-genealogy-fun-where-were-your-ancestors-150-years-ago-2/.  At that time, I had 41 ancestors living on 25 June 1866.  In the 3 years between 1866 and 1869, 1 great grandparent had been born, and 3 of my 3x great grandparents had died.

I also did a post back in 2015 – https://loiswillis.blog/2015/05/17/sunday-afternoon-genealogy-fun-where-were-your-ancestors-150-years-ago/. At that time, I had 40 ancestors living on 16 May 1865 – 4 great grandparents, 16 2x great grandparents, 16 3x great grandparents and 4 4x great grandparents.

 

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